[PYRO音乐的对话间]上海活动组织双人组 —Shang High
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[PYRO音乐的对话间]上海活动组织双人组 —Shang High

[PYRO音乐的对话间]上海活动组织双人组 —Shang High-PYRO音乐
[PYRO音乐的对话间]上海活动组织双人组 —Shang High-PYRO音乐
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PYRO音乐会开始分享给各位一些场地或活动的组织者介绍,目前在中国有着近千的酒吧和Club、还有很多的活动和音乐节等等。其中有一些有着自己性格和独特性的场地和活动是我们想推荐给你们的,这是我们想要推荐给你们的关于夜生活的一些事。


这周Pyro的“Showcase of the Week”会关注到Shang High。一个活动组织公司,也是一个来自上海本地以Pandah为名的双人组。让我们来看看他们是怎么操办他的活动的。

[PYRO音乐的对话间]上海活动组织双人组 —Shang High-PYRO音乐


Q:大家好!很高兴这周请到你们。你可以告诉我们那些可能不知道你的人点你的背景和你从哪儿来吗?

A:我们的故事很长……我们从布达佩斯来,是匈牙利的首都,在欧洲的中心。我们在一个满是争议的独特环境中长大。Akos和我在大学学习中认识,我们的专业是艺术管理。课程的主旨是训练我们成为善于管理的人,并组织艺术活动。我们学习知识的同时,最大的收获是我们让认识了对方。我们住在一个小区很多年,但我们直到在一个课上挨着坐才互相认识对方。因为这个原因,我觉得学校不仅在于学习,也在于认识新朋友和扩大我们的网络交际。


Q:你来中国多久了,你对这有什么印象?

A:我们到中国大概一年多吧。去年我们参与了很多音乐有关的策划,地下和商业的都有。在亚洲,尤其在中国发生的一切都很棒。回到欧洲,我们在一个衰落的经济环境中成长。这对于有创造力的人来说并不是良好的环境,对于不想进步的人太容易找借口了。在中国,我们看到了有一大群年轻人越来越对电子音乐、艺术、流行文化感兴趣。我相信这是好事,EDM正在迅速成长。David Guetta,一个世界上电子音乐里最有影响力的艺人,即将在跨年夜在中国演出。Dixon,被誉为地下音乐第一也在中国开了专场,而不是亚洲巡演,中国被钉上了世界电子音乐的版图。世界上许多人和粉丝都在强烈反对EDM,而我不这么认为。EDM是通往更丰富音乐种类的大门,在我看来,最终人们会定夺音乐好坏。你并没有权利说一首上万人喜欢的音乐是错的,而且是上万付费听众。


Q:在中国组织并参加了各种派对后,和你在匈牙利参加的相比怎么样?

A:很难比较这两拨人,我们在世界各地参与了很多活动,只能说匈牙利人的氛围是世界上最棒的之一。他们确实有活力,粉丝也对艺人很了解,这都是因为网络,信息是关键。你首先要开始理解网络的用法,不同人有不同获取信息的选择。在我看来,有许多工作是要给中国人信息和内容。不过这不是大多数商人所想。为了做点积极的事,你必须理解中国文化。我不想说,“西方人知道答案”,“走你”,就是这样只是简单的因为文化差异。我们不是在做殖民文化,让我举个例子,许多时候我看到活动信息并不是中文写的,我觉得这样不好。你在中国,你必须尊重本土文化。因为我们住这,我们每天都在学习,如果我们想要对我们保留真实,我们能做的就是做一个世界观点,答案,计划,想法都在一起的平台。我们互相学习,他们都应该这样。我们需要帮助中国人形成自己的音乐文化,创造他们自己的社区,推动本土艺人,让中国人也有自己尊敬的英雄。

[PYRO音乐的对话间]上海活动组织双人组 —Shang High-PYRO音乐


Q:Shang High 和 Pandah是什么?目标是什么?

A:Shang High 看起来是一个专注地下音乐的活动品牌。主要动力在于品牌背后的团队,我们想要给思想超前的年轻人创造一个平台。工具就是音乐和场地,所有的东西都是围绕着喜欢音乐的人们,这就是Shang High背后的目的。Pandah计划是我们和Akos的b2b DJ计划。我们喜欢打长的 DJ sets,并且用它来讲故事。我们在放弃决定Belitu计划后用了这个名字。打碟和制作对于我们有不同的意义,当我们在DJ台上,我们在为听众放音乐,我们希望他们玩得开心。如果他们不开心,我们也不开心。我们一直关注着舞池的氛围,试着根据气氛调整音乐。当我们在制作时,我们不在乎人们怎么想,我们只考虑我们的情绪和当时的想法。这是两种不同的方法……


Q:你觉得作为团队组织活动和同时打碟对你来说怎么样?你们一个打碟一个制作还是两人同时打碟制作?

A:我和Akos是一个完美的团队,每个决定都是我们俩都同意和接受的,我很喜欢团队合作。我认为不同观点可以想到好的决策,也能预防错误发生。我们的价值观相同,但我们故事不同,所以当我们需要做决定的时候,会有两种不同观点。信任对我们的事业和个人都很重要。我们的故事是信任和眼界可以让你走多远的很好例子。


Q:你一次走进电子音乐是什么时候?是什么让你继续前进并组织了Shang High的活动?

A:音乐在我生命中一直很重要。Akos早年是个钢琴手,他甚至为匈牙利歌剧院工作过。在我青年时期,我一直听电子乐。我很骄傲的说,我和我朋友时匈牙利夜生活的先锋,既是DJ也是策划人。如我说过的,我和Alos在大学遇到。一天他来找我问关于电子音乐制作和音乐商业。6月后,他又来找我,他成功的完成了音乐制作课,给我听了点他的作品。我被震惊了,我觉得我们应该要一起做点什么了。


在去柏林的学校旅行后,我们计划一起做点新歌。我们每天都在录音室,开始用Belitu这个名字出歌。在几首歌之后,我们开始计划我们自己的厂牌Attaché Records,来让许多我们在社交媒体上发现的隐藏的有才华的人露面。这两个计划可以被看作独立的车库计划。我们没钱,只是一种眼界,和乐趣在做这些。Belitu在我们一次亚洲巡演后有了突破,我们在亚洲呆了3周,在泰国,马来西亚,中国有演出。我们突然意识到这些市场正在迅速成长,我们决定搬过来,试试运气。亚洲的精神和想法和我们的很像,我觉得我和Akos都是有精神,一直同时寻找问题和答案。

[PYRO音乐的对话间]上海活动组织双人组 —Shang High-PYRO音乐


Q:当地群体对你们的支持怎么样?

A:总的来说,人们喜欢我们做的。我们总是有障碍要克服,这就是生活。对我们来说,重要的是我们需要爱我们所做的事。如果不爱你所做的工作,我觉得不可能成功。夜生活里有有趣的人这很棒,我们喜欢有趣的人。我所见到产业本身的问题,关键人物和商业之间缺少合作。如果他们能联合,可以取得更大成功。合作和分享知识也是关键。


Q:你觉得一个好的派对该有什么?

A:一个好的派对?现在,我更喜欢小一点,和关系更好的人在一起。但我说过,好的派对是听众和艺人都说好,夜店老板们和听众都笑得很开心,就是双赢。


Q:Shang High和DJ生涯的下一步是什么?你今年有什么计划要完成吗?

A:个人目标是每天变得更好。我们的计划也是……虽然很重要的就是放手……我们不是很在乎品牌的未来。那些知识名字和Logo,我们在乎的就是品牌后的这些人,听众,和粉丝,我们也欢迎有新的人来这个组织。这是我们独特的态度。很多人想做封闭,精品的组织,但我们不,我们想要见到新的人,改变自身也改变商业。好的音乐应该给所有人听到,无论信仰,无论思想,文化,肤色,和你穿什么牌子T恤。我们不应该忘记我们的派对文化出现是为了让人们聚到一起,为不同生活和故事的如人们建设桥梁。无论你在麦当劳工作或是个律师,在舞池里我们都是一样的,都是为了逃避可怕的现实,为了舞池里的虚拟世界。


谢谢你们!欢迎你们给接下来的活动做宣传。

首先,谢谢这个机会。这很可贵!谢谢所有在一路上陪伴我们的人。你们是这个故事的全部,尤其是帮助我们成长,分享自己的故事和感受的人们。那些愿意敞开心扉的人,那些不是求异而是追求统一的人,那些愿意分享自己看法和知识来让我们变得更好的人。有件事我很确定,我们会一直心存感激,我们永不会忘记我们开始的地方。




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PYRO SHOWcase

PYRO will feature one venue or event organiser located in China to share with our followers. There are thousands of clubs throughout China with a steady growth of events and festivals inside and outside venues and the typical environment. This new feature will bring to light all their unique approaches to the nightlife scene.


This week of PYROs “SHOWcase of the week” will be focusing on Shang High: an event organising company and also DJ duo under the Pandah name located here in Shanghai. Lets check out how they operate their functions and events. 

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Q:Hey guys ! Its great to have you featured this week, can you tell us a little about your background and where you’re from for those that may not know you?

A:Our story is a quite long one…. We are from Budapest. Capital city of Hungary, located in Central Europe. We were both born and raised in this vivid city in a unique environment full of controversies. Akos and I met during our university studies where we were majoring in Arts Management. The idea of the course was to train us to be successful in managing people and organisations that make up the arts and events communities. Besides the knowledge we have gained, the biggest positive outcome of attending this course was meeting each other. We were living in the same neighborhood for years, but we have might never have met if we didn’t find ourselves sitting next to each other in a class. For this reason we think school is not just about learning, but making new connections and expanding your network.

    

Q:How long have you been in China and what are your thoughts on the scene here?

A:We have arrived to China a bit more then a year ago. In the past year we were involved in many different music related projects, both on underground and commercial levels. What is happening in Asia, especially in China is amazing.  Back in Europe we were raised in a falling economic environment. This is not a good environment for creative people; it’s too easy to find an excuse for not progressing. In China, we see that there is a growing group of the younger generation who are getting more and more interested in electronic music, arts and popular culture. I believe this as a good thing. EDM is booming here. David Guetta, one of the world’s most influential act in electronic music history is going to perform in China on New Years Eve! Dixon, who is named by the world’s number 1 underground DJ also just had a solo show in China; not an Asia tour… A solo show! China is getting pinned onto the global map of electronic music. Many industry people all around the globe and even fans are heavily against EDM. I don’t see it in that way. EDM is the door towards the more sophisticated genres. Also in our opinion, in the end the crowd decides if a musical product is good or bad. You don’t have the right to say that something is wrong, when it attracts ten-thousands of people…  ten-thousands of paying customers.


Q:After organizing and attending all shapes and forms of parties both here and in your home country of Hungary, how would you compare the crowd and scenes between the two?

A:It is really hard to compare the two crowds. After attending many various events worldwide, I can say that the Hungarian crowd is truly one of the best in the world.  They are really energetic and fans know a lot about their beloved artists. But this is all because of the Internet. Information is the key. If you want to understand the Chinese market, you should start understanding their Internet usage first. Different people have different options to get the information. In my opinion, that is the job here… to give access to information and content for Chinese people.  But not in the way how most expats in the business think… You need to understand the Chinese culture first in order to do anything real positive. We don’t want to say that ‘western people have the answers’, ‘there you go’, ‘this is it’ simply because the two cultures are so different. We are not colonizing.  Let me give a quick example, many times I see events where the address on the flyer is not even written in Chinese; I think this is not good. You are in China, you need to respect the local culture. Since we are living here, we are learning every day. If we want to stay true to ourselves, all we can do is to create platforms where both world-views meet and come up with answers, projects and ideas we formed together. All sides can learn from each other. And they all should…  We need to help the Chinese crowd to form their own music culture, create their own communities, push local artists so Chinese people can have their respected local heroes.

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Q:What is Shang High & Pandah and what is their purposes?

A:The Shang High project currently can be seen as an event and promotion brand focused mostly on underground dance music. The main power of the brand is in the community behind the brand. We are trying to create a platform for like-minded, forward-thinking people. The tool, the common ground is the music. The whole thing is all about the people and the crew. This is the idea behind Shang High. It’s just a random name actually, the true value is in the community. The Pandah project is our b2b DJ project with Akos. We like to play long sets, where we have the time to tell a story… We came up with this name after deciding to give up on the Belitu project. DJing and producing has two different meaning to us. When we are in the DJ booth, we are performing for our audience and we want them to have fun. If they don’t enjoy, we can’t enjoy.  We constantly monitor the vibe on the dance floor and trying to adjust our music to the vibe. When we are producing, we don’t really care about what people think; it’s all about our emotions and current state of mind. Two different approaches…


Q:How do you two like working as a team with event organisations AND DJing together? Have a yin yang professional relationship or one specializes in one department where the other doesn’t?

A:We are a perfect team together with Akos. Each decision we make has been already evaluated and accepted by both of us. I always enjoyed working in a team. I think different opinions can make real good decisions come to life and prevent mistakes from happening. Our values are the same, but the story is different so when it comes to making a decision there are two different points of views. Trust is really important for us both on the business and personal sides. Our story is a perfect example for how far trust and a common vision can take you.


Q:When did you first get into electronic music and what motivated you to take the next step with organizing Shang High events?

A:Music has always been a crucial part of our life. Akos is a classical pianist since his early years, he even worked for the Hungarian Opera House. In the meantime I was continuously involved in electronic music since my teenager years. I am proud to say today, that me and my friends were pioneers in the Hungarian nightlife, both as DJs and promoters. As I said before, Akos and I met at uni. One day he came to me and started to ask about electronic music production and the music business in general. Six month later he came back to me. He successfully completed a music production course and showed me some of his draft productions. I was blown away… I already knew that we need to do something together... 


After a school trip to Berlin we have decided to work on some new productions together. We were doing studio sessions day-to-day and started to release music under the moniker ‘Belitu’. After a few smaller releases we decided to launch our own record label under the name Attaché Records to give exposure to some hidden talents we found on the various social media sites. Both of the projects can be seen as true independent garage projects. We had no money at all, just a vision and the enjoyment of doing it. The breakthrough comes after our first Asian Tour with the Belitu project. We spent 3 weeks across Asia, having gigs in Thailand, Malaysia and China. We instantly realized how strongly these markets are becoming and we decided to move here and try our luck… The Asian mentality and way of thinking is also close to our beliefs, as I think both Me and Akos are quite spiritual beings. Looking for both the questions and answers all the time.

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Q:How has the support been from the local community since Shanghigh’s inception?

A:All in all, I think that people love what we do. There are always obstacles we need to come over, but that’s life.  For us, what matters is that we need to love what we do. I think it’s impossible to reach great success if you don’t like the field you are working in. Nightlife is great to meet interesting people… and we love interesting people.  What I see as a big problem from the industry side, that there is still a lack of co-operation between key people of the business. If they could unite, much greater results could be achieved. Cooperation and sharing knowledge is also the key.


Q:Which qualities would you say a good party have?

A:A good party? Nowadays, I am really enjoying the smaller, more intimate get-togethers. But as I said before, a good party is where the audience says it’s good and both the artist, the club owners and the crowd leaves with a big smile on their faces.


Q:Whats next for Shanghigh or your DJ careers? Any goals you would like to accomplish by the end of the year?

A:Our personal goal is to become better and better every day. The same goes to our projects… Although it’s important to let things go… We don’t really care about the future of our brands. Those are just names and logos. All we care about is the people behind the brands, the crew and the fans while always being ready to adopt new people to the system. I see this is a unique attitude of ours. Many people are trying to create closed, ‘elite’ communities.  We don’t want to do that, we want to meet new people, always change our businesses as we change personally all the time as well. Good music should be available to everyone… no matter what religion, what state-of-mind, culture, the color of your skin or the brand of your t-shirt. We should not forget that the party culture was coming to existence in order to unite the people, to create a bridge between people with different lives and stories. No matter if you are working at McDonald’s or working as a lawyer, on the dance floor we are all the same, trying to escape from the frightening reality we are living in by creating an alternate reality on the dance floor! 


Q:Thank you for your time! Feel free to give further shout outs!

A:To start with, thank you guys for the opportunity! It’s been a pleasure. Shout out goes to all the people who are and were with us on this journey. You are all part of this story  Particularly the ones who helped us to grow, sharing their true selves and their true feelings. The ones who were willing to open up. The ones who are looking not for the differences but the common ground. The ones who were willing to share their insights and knowledge so we can become better. One thing we know for sure… we will always be thankful and we will never forget where we started or where we came from…




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